Eminem death hoax exposes Wikipediocracy as a clueless bunch of absolute fuckwits

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Eminem death hoax exposes Wikipediocracy as a clueless bunch of absolute fuckwits

Post by ChaosMeRee » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:20 pm

So, Eminem was dead for two hours according to Wikipedia.

First to respond on Wikipediocracy, my new friend rnu, seems to think the most embarrassing aspect of the incident was that that guilty party was only given a warning, not blocked.

https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewto ... =6&t=13259

Intrigued, it took me all of five seconds to realise why someone might only give a warning for such a bright line BLP violating edit. As the warning editor Blaze Wolf says in their user page....
I'm an Autistic furry from the United States, so I may think and/or behave differently than most others
So cut the guy some slack and stop being such jerks. The guilty party here is the community of a website that has got itself into a position where even on the biography of someone as famous as Eminem, the first responder is late and ill-suited to their chosen task. Why are they doing that task? My best guess is that nobody else is.

I blame the community because post Framgate, the community and its duly elected representatives on ArbCom has been solely responsible for essentially all editorial decisions, up to and including the failure to produce an environment where suitable patrollers are present and highly motivated.

If an asshole like Fram scared off the last competent person prepared to waste their lives on the never ending task of Wikipedia anti-vandalism, that's on the community.

It fell to Wikipediocracy's finest and most experienced member to tell the unvarnished truth about this incident....
The fact that it was present in the article for 2 hours is really embarrassing
But this is Wikipediocracy, populated in the main by die hard Wikipedians, so if you're thinking this harsh truth will lead to meaningful change, think again.

Hemiauchenia spends his days trying to stop harsh truths from penetrating the walls of Wikipedia. He hates people who tell the truth about Wikipedia.

I wonder how long I could get a death hoax to stick in one of Jess Wade's shitty biographies. Pages that are the top result of these people in Google, but as seen with her most recent creation, Wisia Wedzicha, exist only to duplicate the contents of the second result, her University profile (which is actually more detailed!)

For some reason, creating a directory listing of barely noticed scientists on Wikipedia gets you a medal. A silver lining being Hemiauchenia 'ain't getting no medal, ever.

The theory being of course is that someone will expand these biographies in the fullness of time. Or their mere existence in a Wikpedia directory will somehow make the people more visible, so then media will notice them.

The former has been about as successful as anything Wikipedians have ever done to write their encyclopedia so far. The latter of course isn't even the function of Wikipedia. A clear cut violation of WP:NOT. But try telling them that. Try telling Wikipedians anything about Jess Wade. They don't want hear it.

In the mean time, while we wait for the Wikipedians to expand Wisia Wedzicha's biography, she is at risk of Wikipedia vandalism. And of course, she probably has absolutely no clue that on Decemebr 8th she became wiki-famous.

Which, if you're legit not famous, and don't want to be famous, can be a very scary surprise. A real burden. Not least because you now have to pay Cullen328 $75 an hour to advise you on how to protect your biography that any vandal, rival or crazy person can edit, without being accused of being a self promoter. The very idea that someone as successful as Wisia Wedzicha even needs Wikipedia's help to advance their career being ever so slightly absurd. But this is Wikipedia, absurd is what they do.

Harsh truths about beloved hobbies. They sure do make Wikipedia editors cry. There there Hemiauchenia. You stay safe under Uncle Jake's skirts, where the Big Bad Wolf can't get you.

Hemiauchenia is typical of the kool aid drinking freaks who inhabit Wikipediocracy. I definitely don't think he would see the irony in the fact it is only because medal winning editor Jess Wade is such a monumentally shit editor with an ego the size of a house, people like Wisia Wedzicha have a tiny bit of hope.

Her biography might at least have up to four (FOUR) editors watching her page now due to subsequent fixes. They're the suckers who follow Wade around fixing all the shit Wade is too lazy or stupid to do herself, but which is what any editor is required to do. As in, you eventually get blocked if you don't. Unless you have immunity, which Wade does.

That includes stuff like adding categories and incoming links, which as any experienced and responsible Wikipedia editor would know (so not Wade, and maybe not even Hemiauchenia?) are especially important in helping protect BLPs from vandalism. Or at least insofar as that is even possible on Wikipedia.

The benefit to Wedzicha of having up to four watchers now, of course comes at a cost. The time wasted by those editors cleaning up after Wade, day after day, could of course be better spent detecting vandals. Assuming they care.

Wikipedia resources are finite. It would be absurd to think they would happily waste it in this fashion, and that an editor with SEVEN years and 40,000 edits like Hemiauchenia has, would be OK with that. But he is. Over the moon with it.

So if you see him around, wiki-punch him in the mouth. He deserves it.

For some reason, Hemiauchenia also included this.....
This user has a history of adding death hoaxes, as well as other vandalism, going back many months
Perhaps now Hemiauchenia is realising what happens when Wikipedia gets a reputation as a place that ignores valid concerns for petty, parochial reasons.

Jess Wade has a very long history of not adding categories to BLPs. It was duly reported by a concerned citizen. Hemiauchenia was an integral part in the effort to make that all just go away. If I recall, they even had a good old laugh about it.

The Eminem vandalism occurred at 13.23 on December 9th. It isn't an accident that at that very moment, User Kj cheetham, one of Jess Wade's hand maidens, was busy adding a {citation-needed} tag to her Wedzicha biography. And adding a short description which is actually wrong. All utterly pointless work that wouldn't be necessary if people took reports of Wade's sloppy and irresponsible editing seriously rather than brushing them under the carpet.

So fuck you Hemiauchenia. If you didn't know that Eminem vandal was a problem, and nobody else had any time or inclination to notice, maybe blame yourself eh? Cunt.

Community has a very literal meaning on Wikipedia. It is not some abstract concept.

Then rnu adds this hilarious comment, in response to Hemiauchenia....
I didn't find any major RS reporting it. I think this is one of the better ones reporting it:

Metro: Eminem fans heartbroken after wrongly believing rapper to be dead
Too funny for words. The Metro is part of the Daily Mail group, so according to the Wikipedia editors, that story could potentially be completely false. A fabrication to sell papers.

You will have as much success having the logic of the Daily Mail ban revisited on Wikipedia, as you will in getting them to take a look at Jess Wade's highly irresponsible editing. People like Hemiauchenia are an integral part of those efforts.

You can see why the ban helps Wikipedia. The Guardian certainly aren't going to give a shit that Wikipedia tortured Eninem fans. Stephen Harrison of Slate won't be writing about it either. So by being biased as fuck, making clearly politically motivated decisions regarding who they believe is a reliable source, Wikipedia has created the perfect conditions where if they don't want to acknowledge the hurt their website causes, they don't have to. It LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED.

It's not just Hemiauchenia, it's the whole of Wikipediocracy who are an integral part of those efforts. Evil is as evil does.

Hemiauchenia isn't done there, he adds.....
Adding death hoaxes to BLPs in my opinion should be a zero tolerance offense. I was very disappointed that the people who added the death hoaxes to Denise Welch (T-H-L) were not blocked for that crap.
HEY DICKHEAD.

It already is a zero tolerance offense. The policy could not be clearer.

The Wikipedia that people like you support and protect, doesn't give a damn about things like that. They spend their days creating an environment where rules are entirely ignorable, and not in the Ignore All Rules way (not immediately blocking death hoax vandals improves Wikipedia in no way whatsoever).

Then it gets really fun. Vigilant pops up...
I'll ask the perennial questions, "Why isn't there a separate right to edit BLPs?" and/or "Why aren't all BLPs covered by pending changes?"
The answer to the first is obvious. BLPs are not the only place on Wikipedia where information about living people resides. This idea would only make Wikipedia even less Vigilant, giving as it would a false sense of security.

This is one of the reasons people didn't realise that template vandalism is a pretty neat way of screwing up even fully protected biographies with vile pornography. Until it happened. Dumb bastards.

The answer to the second is also obvious. Wikipedia doesn't have sufficient people to review the massive queue of requested edits that would result. It is already the case people can wait weeks for an edit request to the handful of fully protected BLPs to be approved.

Hemiauchenia doesn't even know the BLP / Blocking policy as it is, and he's been there seven years. Jess Wade doesn't know the policy and doesn't even care. She doesn't do any community related editing anyway. Got a medal for it though. Wow.

People like Kj cheetham don't have the time to be reviewing the PC queue. They're too busy cleaning up after Jess Wade. Day after day.

Edits that would not need to be made if Wikipediocracy weren't such a bunch of die hard Wikipedian supporting and enabling bastards and did some actual heavy lifting when it comes to exposing the glaring flaws with Wikipedia that can actually be fixed BY ENFORCING THEIR EXISTING RULES. Enforcing BLP and editorial policy without fear or favour (itself, a Wikipedia rule). Prioritizing the content over PR.

Why do they not do so? Because they want to piss me off, is the most plausible reason I have seen so far.

Bravo, my brave brothers from another mother. My so called fellow critics.

These are the cultural problems that need to be fixed.

Once done, then you can improve the policies.

Seems like an impossible task. Easier to just destroy Wikipedia, no?

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Re: Eminem death hoax exposes Wikipediocracy as a clueless bunch of absolute fuckwits

Post by ChaosMeRee » Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:36 am

"Hemiauchenia" wrote:I'm suprised that google don't have some kind of manual approval process for death dates appearing in knowledge panels, especially for well known public figures like Eminem.
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Re: Eminem death hoax exposes Wikipediocracy as a clueless bunch of absolute fuckwits

Post by ericbarbour » Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:22 pm

Said this before and will keep repeating it:

If Wales had not been a narcissistic little chode with no regard for the existence of others, he would have installed a "no BLPs at all" rule at the beginning. And thus avoided all kinds of crap like this. But nooooo.

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