My challenge removing a link to child porn

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My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by wexter » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:25 pm

A drunk neighbor of mine was ranting about qanon and I wanted to find out more so I went to Wikipedia. The 8chan 8kun Wikipedia article contained link to child pornography. I removed the link and and edit War ensued. The bottom line is that Wikipedia does not have a process to swiftly remove links to child pornography and other types of unprotected speech. Eventually the link was removed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:8c ... k_to_8chan
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Re: My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by sashi » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:04 pm

This is a serious rabbit-hole. :arrow:

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Re: My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by wexter » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:23 pm

:shock: Removing a link to child porn caused an edit war and then a huge discussion.
The extensive talk discussion itself proves how absurd Wikipedia is in terms of process and societal end result. (idiocracy) It is a defective system created by consumers providing consumers with entertainment; simpletons simply believe anything.

People editing Wikipedia falsely think they're creating a masterpiece, tripe that they then must then defend. GROT garbage rot and other trash.

These folks are by policy incapable of organizing primary facts and sources into a product for critical thinking and critical thinkers (research) An encyclopedia is a research product not an aggregation of random secondary opinion.

By policy Wikipedia bans research and discourages experts from organizing primary sources that they themselves are best equipped to understand, interpret, and consider. By policy they debate providing child pornographers with search engine services. To be a search engine and launch pad for child pornography.

An army of Wikipedians, one aptly named gorilla warfare, hold the electronic high ground in their war against fact, expertise, critical thinking, truth, justice, and the American way.

Becoming Publishers of child pronography is indefensible yet that is exactly what they are rationalizing over in talk. (Paragraphs and paragraphs of nonsensical debate over a very clear and known obligation for them not to distribute and disseminate child pronography)

They provide, in talk, an argument in absurdum against themselves.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:8c ... k_to_8chan

If you want to go for the jugular on Wikipedia, this issue provides all the tools you need. That is why I posted my experience with these morons here.
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Re: My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by wexter » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:55 pm

The denial continues!

Yes, that is what started me editing Wikipedia.Zugzwangerone (talk) 00:41, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

All your 110 contributions are shown in this link. Your first edit was at Mantal which seems to be a unit of measurement—I don't see any kind of pornography. Please be precise when making claims—what is the name of the article that had a link to pornography? That can happen when an article has a valid external link, but years later, the owner of the website does not renew their DNS entry, and a scammer then takes over the URL. The scammer can put anything on their website which an article might still link to. That problem affects all websites, not just Wikipedia. Johnuniq (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
I was editing under an IP address. Yes there was a link which led to Child Pornography. What was worse was the lack of process to work through the issue within Wikipedia. Terrance Duffy may have been an earlier edit which was owned by his in house pr dept.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:8c ... k_to_8chan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_A._Duffy

Look, my conclusion is that it takes tons of work to stop Wikipedia from disappearing or being hijacked by whoever wants to edit it. It's an unwinnable battle. Administrators are stuck protecting Wikipedia content because it was designed to be open. The operating culture is opposite of open, it is a closed culture by necessity.

Wikipedia is closed to new editors, introspection, correction, and critical thinking. The content is flawed even on the main page.

My perception, bottom line, is that Wikipidia functions as a social network for folks who have been involved with it for years. If you want to spend years of your life on Wikipedia that is totally ok.

There is no mechanism for fixing the unfixable. Zugzwangerone (talk) 03:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

This entire section, excepting my remark, and the OP's comments originally posted here, is a copyright violation. You cannot copy material within Wikipedia without proper attribution. You should remove this. 174.212.222.125 (talk) 20:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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Re: My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by ericbarbour » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:39 am

Can't follow you--which of these comments are yours?

Also: be DAMN careful dealing with Johnuniq. He is a rigid, thoughtless drone with a sociopathic dedication to the "rules". He spent FOURTEEN YEARS sucking up and parroting "policies" until they gave him adminship last year. They like him because he's a blind cultist.

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Re: My challenge removing a link to child porn

Post by Kumioko » Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:19 am

Yeah I really have nothing positive to say about Johnuniq. He never had one original thought in his life. He is a good example of the type of shit bag that becomes an admin on wikipedia.
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