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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by ericbarbour » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:11 pm

Because wexter keeps forgetting to post links, I might as well put down the miserable remains of the Gonzalo Lira squabble. There were no AFDs or other items that I can find other than the 2014 list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nzalo_Lira
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nzalo_Lira
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nzalo_Lira
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... Lfrankbalm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... nzalo_Lira

You are walking a fine line, sir. All it takes is Cirt or a Guerrilla Skeptic deciding you have to be silenced. And you will be forced off WP with great prejudice. Is Gonzalo Lira really worth this trouble? We can put down bets that Lira will get another shrieky article someday, soon, almost guaranteed. All he needs, is to be mentioned in a "Cirt-reliable source", and he'll be back.
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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:45 pm

Won't forget next time bwanah

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Sun May 01, 2022 10:59 pm

We can put down bets that Lira will get another shrieky article someday, soon, almost guaranteed.
YOU CALLED IT!

Total Shit Show - The talk page is comical

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gonzalo_Lira
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gonz ... The_Charts!

The Daily Beast which outed this fraud-monkey is the only reliable source about this nit-twit. Nope, There are more sources about this grifter recently;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gonz ... ble_source
https://www.thebulwark.com/the-redpill- ... zalo-lira/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/gonzalo-l ... ting-coach

Perhaps he was intentionally resurrected as propaganda by;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elserbio00

and then counter-punched;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ermenrich

Another Shit show;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... omination)

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Fri May 13, 2022 12:40 pm

Figured out another Wikipedia journey into "Crazy-town"

The Lira entry is being managed by a team of Ultra Right Wing Zionists out of Israel, or the JCDD (less likely)

My guess, There was "drift" from domestic issues to Russia perhaps because of the tremendous money-flow from a Russian Oligarchs to a very small internal minority of Israeli elites (some with dual citizenship). Big money has been feeding into "useful-idiots" that are ultra Right Wing Zionists. I don't think that support of Russia is the majority opinion in Israel but major money may be pro-Russian.

Right Wing Zionists (useful idiots getting Russian money) or JCDD probably have training classes on Wikipedia propaganda, they have rotating IP addresses, they have Wikipedia administrators in their pocket, and they have Socks. They are not very subtle, they use brute force of numbers.

The JCDD acts as a feeder farm for Israeli technology startups and analog to an Ivy League education, Army Cyber-Communications and Defense Division. Its more likely to be URWZ's than it is the JCDD, but it is possible.

Wikipedia diddling from Israel is totally overt! They are not even trying to hide it.

You would not think that Lira would be useful, but he is the only echo of Russian propaganda leaking out from official sources. If you read Russian state journals he echos them spot on, Its very lame. For Wikipeda it is just another ignored embarrassment.

When you read Viktor Sovorov, Inside the Aquarium: Making of a Top Soviet Spy, you realize how clumsy intelligence can be.

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Mon May 16, 2022 12:33 am

What a surprise here we go;

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/euro ... 1.10794279

The Fake Accounts Whitewashing Oligarchs on Wikipedia Pages

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by sashi » Sat May 21, 2022 2:44 pm

ericbarbour wrote:
Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:14 am
Whenever you see Snooganssnoogans messing with an article, you know that Cirt wants to abuse that subject.
In an interesting twist -- perhaps because of your comment -- you will never, ever see the Snoog playing with an article again. :o

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by ericbarbour » Sun May 22, 2022 7:47 am

In an interesting twist -- perhaps because of your comment -- you will never, ever see the Snoog playing with an article again. :o
Doesn't matter. The name change is pointless. He has dozens of socks ready to go at all times. Black belt in Wiki-Fu. Ha ha ha. Also a great supply of Adderall I'm guessing.
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/euro ... 1.10794279
The Fake Accounts Whitewashing Oligarchs on Wikipedia Pages
Absolutely nothing surprising here, although having that raging shithead Smallbones perform an "investigation" is deeply absurd. Smallbones is an ass-kissing Jimbotalk suck-up who acts like a well-trained little doggy to TPTB on there. Furthermore, Wikipedia is swamped with paid editing, he knows it, and yet he is clearly afraid of stepping on the toes of some WP insider who is editing for pay. Which many of them are. Russavia has been history for years (although there's been ample past talk of him socking, which he probably is still pulling off). Bell Pottinger and the like are very well compensated to edit Wikipedia so as to render greasy Russian oligarchs "more acceptable". They will not stop trying just because the fucking Signpost harrumphed about it.

BTW, if you don't want to fight with the Haaretz paywall, here's an archive
https://archive.ph/9QDki
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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Thu May 26, 2022 10:05 pm

In terms of Israeli propagandists supporting Gonzalo Lira; and the Russian invasion of Ukraine; don't look there (at Gonzo) but it's over here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2 ... _relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C ... /Jay942942

The autistic brain-trust cannot connect the dots between entries on their own site; not to mention that Wikipedia has published (not an encyclopedic entry but) a research based analysis of international relations between Russia and Israel.

WHY do folks edit Wikipedia? Influencing reality by writing the narrative may be a big part of Why!, its pure PR

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Fri Jul 01, 2022 1:08 am

On Wikipedia manboobs Gonzo Lira is now the devil spawn of Gonzalo Lia Valdés and María Isabel López Hess. He is a pure-breed Chihuahua evidently.

He is the great Cornholio he needs TP for his bunghole.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Lira

Lira was born to Chilean parents in Burbank, California,[9] to Gonzalo Lia Valdés and María Isabel López Hess.[10] He grew up in the San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles, New York, Miami and also Guayaquil, Ecuador. He graduated from Saint George's College, Santiago in 1985, and from Dartmouth College in 1995, with a degree in history and philosophy.[11] He is married to a Ukrainian woman from Ordzhonikidze, with whom he had 1 daughter.[12]

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Re: Dog Piling the Dog Pile

Post by wexter » Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:00 am

One degree of separation from the "dog pile" as "flaming mentally ill idiot Patrick Lancaster" entry gets deleted.

Vice not being a legitimate source seems to be a big "supporting justification for removal." As mentioned, Vice is on the edge of bankruptcy producing "hip liberal content" while having a principal that founded the "proud boys." You just cannot make this "Illuminati board game" stuff up.

The game has ominous secret societies competing with each other to control the world through various means, including legal, illegal, and even mystical.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)

Of course Lancaster and Lira are totally irrelevant ne'erdowells; but sketch sells just as well as social justice. There is no rhyme or reason with Wikipedia content; its totally irrational.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxneb4/ ... journalist

Deletion discussion

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped ... _Lancaster

Comment This is a difficult one, most of the sources you find are his "disinformation" on fishy looking websites. His name seems to come up with Gonzalo Lira, who was up for AfD here a few months ago. More than enough passing mentions of this fellow; could probably be a brief mention in an article about propaganda. Oaktree b (talk) 23:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Note User:Ermenrich who edit wars against Gonzalo Lira with staunch POV, has been actively in a bad faith edit war today with me about this article, he continues to remove well sourced articles, including the BBC. Earlier source removals:[1], [2] Latest removals. 666hopedieslast (talk) 12:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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