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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:53 am

Here's dronebogus violating 3RR AND doing Pinochet apologia: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.p ... &limit=500

More NSFW:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... omless.png

Reddiots found out about it: https://old.reddit.com/r/FutanariMemes/ ... nterested/

More pedo creep nonsense (read the description):
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... or_joy.png
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:56 am

Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 12:42 am
I also enjoy his defense, which appears to be "well, yeah, so I drew sexually suggestive nude pictures of a child...but I was imagining the child as an adult, I swear!" ...OK buddy.
Funny how inconsistent pedo logic is. It's fine because "they're actually a thousand years" or whatever, but then it's also fine if they're a child who looks like an adult.
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Philomath » Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:22 am

What the fuck

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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:27 am

Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 1:22 am
What the fuck
Which part?
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Philomath » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:20 am

Sorry, that genuinely left me speechless. Every part. Especially the pedophilia and bestiality, and his attitude about it. And the fact that he still hasn't been banned...

...and the fact that this guy tried to get me banned for pointing out propaganda in article space. And the fact that it almost worked. The fact that he's quite possibly been harassing me with sockpuppets for almost a year. The fact that he was even allowed to participate in a conversation about another editor's conduct is amazing.

It really emphasizes the priorities of the Wikipedia community.

They'd much rather have pedophilic NPCs than critically-thinking subject matter experts with fresh ideas. That sounds like a hyperbolic point, but it's literally true.

My favorite comment on those threads was about his stick-figure BDSM drawing. ScotFinRadish said:

"Looks like someone put in "Hentai drawn by a quadriplegic holding a pen in their mouth" into DALL-E". That made me laugh way, way too hard.

I don't see a scenario where any of this adds up to a global ban for him, which it should. But it was amusing and informative. It's good to know background on these editors. Thank you for saving it and sharing it.

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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:38 am

Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:20 am
The fact that he's quite possibly been harassing me with sockpuppets for almost a year.
Could you tell me more about that part? Thanks!
Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 2:20 am
My favorite comment on those threads was about his stick-figure BDSM drawing. ScotFinRadish said:

"Looks like someone put in "Hentai drawn by a quadriplegic holding a pen in their mouth" into DALL-E". That made me laugh way, way too hard.
Could you post screenshots of the whole thread? I don't have WPO account so I haven't actually seen the thread in the private forum.
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I don't see a scenario where any of this adds up to a global ban for him, which it should. But it was amusing and informative. It's good to know background on these editors. Thank you for saving it and sharing it.
He's EXACTLY the editor they want. Relentless in arguing, stupid, and will listen to every they want him to do. They won't even consider a ban unless he gets caught by the FBI and it could give them bad PR. Just a quick reminder that I was WMF banned for literally linking to an edit made by an admin: https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... f=5&t=3018
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Philomath » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:06 am

Dronebogus had been bothering me for a while. Closing down discussion threads I had started, following me from article to article, being extremely obnoxious, and so forth. He suddenly stopped and hasn't interacted with me in almost a year.

Around the time he stopped (within a few days at most), a "new user" signed up, and immediately started commenting on discussions I had started, following me from article to article, posting on my talk page, and so forth. Again, with an extremely obnoxious attitude. Called me and anyone who refrained from criticizing me "Nazis". He was so obnoxious that he eventually got banned. This new user was left a "greeting" message by Dronebogus within minutes of account creation.

That "new user" has since been tied to another user account and about a half dozen IPs, all exhibiting the same behavior, all exclusively focused on me, and only me. It started in December 2022 and it's still ongoing. I saw the last IP a couple of weeks ago. Fortunately, a couple of admins have actually been cool (especially FireFangledFeathers) and have dealt with it in a reasonably speedy and professional manner.

That's my evidence. It's circumstantial, but it's pretty sus. Dronebogus is obsessed with me, he greets a "new user" that is also obsessed with me, then Dronebogus goes from thinking about me every day to never, ever interacting with me or even posting on the same page as me? Even though he and I are both still equally active?

Maybe I'm being a bit conspiracy-minded, but what I've learned subsequently about Dronebogus makes me even more suspicious of his character and conduct.

Give me a few minutes and I'll get you screenshots of that thread.
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Bbb23sucks » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:08 am

Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:06 am
Dronebogus had been bothering me for a while. Closing down discussion threads I had started, following me from article to article, being extremely obnoxious, and so forth. He suddenly stopped and hasn't interacted with me in almost a year.

Around the time he stopped (within a few days at most), a "new user" signed up, and immediately started commenting on discussions I had started, following me from article to article, posting on my talk page, and so forth. Again, with an extremely obnoxious attitude. Called me and anyone who refrained from criticizing me "Nazis". He was so obnoxious that he eventually got banned. This new user was left a "greeting" message by Dronebogus within minutes of account creation.

That "new user" has since been tied to another user account and about a half dozen IPs, all exhibiting the same behavior, all exclusively focused on me, and only me.

That's my evidence. It's circumstantial, but it's pretty sus. Dronebogus is obsessed with me, he greets a "new user" that is also obsessed with me, then Dronebogus goes from thinking about me every day to never, ever interacting with me or even posting on the same page as me? Even though he and I are both still equally active?
Thanks! Could you give us some links?
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:26 am

Philomath wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:06 am
Dronebogus had been bothering me for a while. Closing down discussion threads I had started, following me from article to article, being extremely obnoxious, and so forth. He suddenly stopped and hasn't interacted with me in almost a year.

Around the time he stopped (within a few days at most), a "new user" signed up, and immediately started commenting on discussions I had started, following me from article to article, posting on my talk page, and so forth. Again, with an extremely obnoxious attitude. Called me and anyone who refrained from criticizing me "Nazis". He was so obnoxious that he eventually got banned. This new user was left a "greeting" message by Dronebogus within minutes of account creation.
Almost certainly an ADHD teenaged boy or college student in the US. His old IP address is a Charter cable-modem connection and could be almost anywhere in the continental US.

Only a twitching idiot would have a Commons userpage like that. Commons is full of stupid crap, but he is very picky about the stupid crap he "highlights". Including this notorious image authored long ago by the infamous Lise "Durova" Broer. Nut-cases meeting in the night. (Still think he will get away with loads of abuse for years to come.)
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Re: Dronebogus

Post by Philomath » Sun Sep 24, 2023 3:51 am

Sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vizorblaze

Here's the original account's talk page. I was slightly off on the dates, this took place on 17 Jan 2023.

Anyway, you can see that allegedly, this "new user" Vizorblaze just stumbled across the talk page of "The Grayzone", which is a pretty obscure and esoteric corner of Wikipedia, probably not the first place a "new user" would find himself. Vizorblaze then jumped into the discussion as if he was intimately familiar with it. Dronebogus, happy to see a "new user" equally obsessed with me, greeted him...and then on 19 Jan 2023, Dronebogus completely disengaged from all of the pages he had followed me to, except for one brief comment on my talk page on the 24th.

Granted, I received an indefinite ban on the 18th, which was commuted to a 6-month post-1992 politics topic ban on the 25th, so I wasn't as active from Jan-July. But I've been very active since, as has Dronebogus, as have Vizorblaze's socks and IPs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1134168477
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1134168624

The first two comments from Vizorblaze. Does that sound like someone who just signed up for Wikipedia and happened to stumble across that RFC? Or does that sound like someone who created an account to comment on the RFC? You can see my comment above his, where I was trying my best to reason with these people. It didn't work. I've learned a lot since then about how the cult operates, and I don't try to have serious conversations like that anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:C ... vizorblaze

Just looking at Vizorblaze's other edits, I see two deletions of content in the first ten edits. That reminds me of Dronebogus. So does Vizorblaze's attitude, although it's more extreme - probably because Vizorblaze was intended as a throwaway account. I wonder if there's any record of Dronebogus gratuitously calling people "nazis".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... Vizorblaze

If you want to get further into the weeds, there's the SPI against him with other accounts and IPs.

With all of that said, I do believe that Dronebogus is Vizorblaze. However, I'm not 100% sure. It's entirely possible that comments like the one Vizorblaze responded to pissed off multiple NPC drones besides Dronebogus. Maybe Dronebogus was just obsessively looking at my contributions in Dec/Jan, forgot about me after I was indeffed, and hasn't noticed that I'm back. Maybe Vizorblaze is a completely different NPC acting independently - there's plenty of immature, obnoxious, bratty people on Wikipedia who despise me. Since I'm not sure, and I can't prove anything, I think I'll leave it there for now.

I will add one more thing - on December 11th 2022, a random IP left a message on my talk page insinuating that Joe Biden is a pedophile. I said hi to the IP and acknowledged what it said, without agreeing. Then Dronebogus showed up on my talk page and removed the thread citing BLP. His edit summary included "...if you’re going to go around accusing people of being pedophiles then bring sone (sic) HARD evidence to the article talk".

I guess he was technically correct on BLP, but 1) it's odd to be paying such close attention to someone else's conversations on their own talk page 2) it's amusing that he got triggered and wants HARD evidence for pedophilia in light of the HARD evidence for his pedophilia that I've seen today.

Oh wait, I forgot, he only draws naked little girls "as adults". I guess that's not pedophilic. /s

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