Results are in, so now we know the make-up of the 2024 Arbitration Committee.....
1. Aoidh
2. Barkeep49
3. Cabayi
4. CaptainEek
5. Firefly
6. GeneralNotability
7. Guerillero
8. HJ Mitchell
9. L235
10. Maxim
11. Moneytrees
12. Primefac
13. Sdrqaz
14. ToBeFree
15. Z1720
Immediately obvious is the shockingly lop sided nature of the thing. Almost dangerously skewed to complete novices or only very recent experience. There is now an absolute majority (8) or highly inexperienced members, with a whopping 6 rookies and 2 sophomores. The rookies are Aoidh, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720. The sophomores are GeneralNotability and Moneytrees.
Four of the rookies also have a incredibly short Administrator careers, ranging from just 10 to 22 months. Not unknown, but this many, and all at once? They can't all be undiscovered rock stars or rocket scientists. They almost certainly are not.
Of the now minority! of seven "experienced" members (I'm laughing as I type it because I know what's coming), not a single one has served more than three years as an Arbitrator. Holy. And. Shit. I think NewYorkBrad had that in his left nutsack, did he not? And only one has any service prior to 2020, which is Guerillero. Ridic. Ulous.
The full break down of the issues with that seven's experience gets really scary, but is quite niche, so I'll just skim. Cabayi should not be in a class of his own as a competent former rookie now looking to drop that difficult second album, but he is. Your core group of de facto veterans should not be so small (four - Barkeep49, CaptainEek, L235, Primefac), or be on identical service tracks, all elected in January 2021 and immediately re-elected in January 2023. It is a cliff edge in the making and a sign too many people know only the same stuff.
And in all honesty, why even waste time pretending Maxim or Guerillero are bringing anything special to the party for their limited differences to the rest, notably as the only ones to be returning Arbs, rather than unbroken service from rookie term to second term (the four plus Cabayi). They have still only both done three years in country. Just like the four.
Maxim only had a year off and so is only one year ahead/behind the four. He will do four years in five if he makes it, while the four will do four in four, if they make it. All very insane. And his break feels like a selfish act of self interest, not a group benefit, since he seems to work very differently to the four. Behind the scenes, on his own, to his own schedule. And he's seemingly getting electoral benefits from it that don't truly compare him to the four as Arbitrators alone. Worrying if true.
As for Guerillero as the Wise Old Hand and keeper of institutional memory, come on. He is but one man, his historical service was as a rookie, and his electoral performance is woeful. Two wins from six attempts, and both very poor showings, as both rookie and returnee. He cannot and he should not seek any limelight or influence beyond the four. He should only quietly offer a different perspective if he truly believes that is what his distance gives him. And I severely doubt it did. But he may really annoy people if he pushes it.
All in all, pretty disturbing for the believers.
HTD.
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Re: 2024 Arbitration Committee
https://wikipediasucks.co/forum/viewtop ... 188#p28188
The veterans are too busy doing scut work to even get this year's program of works off the ground?
End. Times.
The veterans are too busy doing scut work to even get this year's program of works off the ground?
End. Times.
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Re: 2024 Arbitration Committee
Looks like those first case is going to be to examine Administrator Mzajac (Michael Z.)
It hasn't even been accepted yet and it already looks like a clusterfuck in the making.
It is somewhat ironic that the filer, no less then Guerillero, is as we speak bitching on Wikipediocracy about how unhelpful the commentards are being.
He probably shouldn't push that too hard, because the very first thing I noticed was how curious it was that Guerillero didn't declare up front (and still hasn't) that he has acted as an Administrator regarding Mzajac in multiple AE reports.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... 301#Mzajac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... 277#Mzajac
....where in both cases he is seen pushing hard for Mzajac to be sent to Arbcom, harder than anyone else.
And yet now, in this filing, he is apparently having a lapse in memory about these events, and he is almost acting as if he is pleasantly surprised to see that while his initial complaint, some bunch of incomprehensible nonsense about wheel warring, didn't gain any traction, not least because Mzajac hasn't wheel warred, the community and his Arb colleagues seemed to have happened upon the other issues such as those AE reports all by themselves, and want to make a case of it.
One that seems like it will probably feature very little if any of the famed "tool abuse", and will instead be about far more subjective matters of how you conduct yourself as an Administrator, or even just a common or garden editorial dispute (which in reality was probably nowhere near ripe for Arbitration).
Quite why you would want to hide that history of AE work in said content dispute is beyond me. But given this case could result in a perceived pro-Russian victory against an apparent Ukranian nationalist, maybe Guerillero has some kind of undeclared Russian sympathies?
Has Guerillero been waiting for this chance all along? To get what nobody gave him at AE. He wasn't elected this year, but this is the first year that he is surrounded by rookies and greenhorns, and he can sort of claim to be an elder.
Is he taking advantage of their naivety to have them go after someone he really dislikes for some perhaps undeclared or otherwise at least not very good reason? A lot of people do indeed think it is ridiculous to have Administrators who are under sanctions, but surely if this was just a campaign to send them all to Arbitration on a manufactured pretext so they can be stripped and tarred, surely you would start with Ritchie first? As the most obviously embarrassing example, and someone who uses their Admin tools about a million times more often than Mzajac.
If this is some weird anti-Ukrainian thing, there could be a potential scandal in the making if there are any more things that these virgins aren't being told the which might prove to be highly pertinent when this is being written up for the Signpost.
Protect yourselves, rookies!
It hasn't even been accepted yet and it already looks like a clusterfuck in the making.
It is somewhat ironic that the filer, no less then Guerillero, is as we speak bitching on Wikipediocracy about how unhelpful the commentards are being.
He probably shouldn't push that too hard, because the very first thing I noticed was how curious it was that Guerillero didn't declare up front (and still hasn't) that he has acted as an Administrator regarding Mzajac in multiple AE reports.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... 301#Mzajac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... 277#Mzajac
....where in both cases he is seen pushing hard for Mzajac to be sent to Arbcom, harder than anyone else.
And yet now, in this filing, he is apparently having a lapse in memory about these events, and he is almost acting as if he is pleasantly surprised to see that while his initial complaint, some bunch of incomprehensible nonsense about wheel warring, didn't gain any traction, not least because Mzajac hasn't wheel warred, the community and his Arb colleagues seemed to have happened upon the other issues such as those AE reports all by themselves, and want to make a case of it.
One that seems like it will probably feature very little if any of the famed "tool abuse", and will instead be about far more subjective matters of how you conduct yourself as an Administrator, or even just a common or garden editorial dispute (which in reality was probably nowhere near ripe for Arbitration).
Quite why you would want to hide that history of AE work in said content dispute is beyond me. But given this case could result in a perceived pro-Russian victory against an apparent Ukranian nationalist, maybe Guerillero has some kind of undeclared Russian sympathies?
Has Guerillero been waiting for this chance all along? To get what nobody gave him at AE. He wasn't elected this year, but this is the first year that he is surrounded by rookies and greenhorns, and he can sort of claim to be an elder.
Is he taking advantage of their naivety to have them go after someone he really dislikes for some perhaps undeclared or otherwise at least not very good reason? A lot of people do indeed think it is ridiculous to have Administrators who are under sanctions, but surely if this was just a campaign to send them all to Arbitration on a manufactured pretext so they can be stripped and tarred, surely you would start with Ritchie first? As the most obviously embarrassing example, and someone who uses their Admin tools about a million times more often than Mzajac.
If this is some weird anti-Ukrainian thing, there could be a potential scandal in the making if there are any more things that these virgins aren't being told the which might prove to be highly pertinent when this is being written up for the Signpost.
Protect yourselves, rookies!
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Re: 2024 Arbitration Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... -1:_Mzajac
This has all the hallmarks of a bunch of dumb rookies.
Guerillero never did explain why he is apparently hiding relevant history. Are they all afraid of him?
If they aren't all in on Guerillero's real reasons, why even open a Case (on the 16th) when the accused hasn't been seen since the 9th and it is widely known having a Case named after you is seen as certain death? Just presume this is exactly the same thing that has been seen many times before (retirement before being pushed, or an attempt to avoid a case) and just do what has been done before (motion to suspend, desysop automatically pending return and participation, permanent after twelve months).
And what the fuck is going on with this new naming convention? How many hours have been wasted coming up with that shit?
Put your My First ArbCom playsets away and do some actual work!
You already dropped the ball letting EEng get away with absolute murder.
This has all the hallmarks of a bunch of dumb rookies.
Guerillero never did explain why he is apparently hiding relevant history. Are they all afraid of him?
If they aren't all in on Guerillero's real reasons, why even open a Case (on the 16th) when the accused hasn't been seen since the 9th and it is widely known having a Case named after you is seen as certain death? Just presume this is exactly the same thing that has been seen many times before (retirement before being pushed, or an attempt to avoid a case) and just do what has been done before (motion to suspend, desysop automatically pending return and participation, permanent after twelve months).
And what the fuck is going on with this new naming convention? How many hours have been wasted coming up with that shit?
Put your My First ArbCom playsets away and do some actual work!
You already dropped the ball letting EEng get away with absolute murder.