Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
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Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940
At this point, we should have a whole sub-forum just for developer incompetence.
At this point, we should have a whole sub-forum just for developer incompetence.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Tens of thousands* on enwiki alone.
Not even including the millions of talk pages affected and all the pages in others wikis.
This is the kind of stuff on Sucks that isn't on Wikipediocracy because they're too stupid to know about.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Their software stack is overly complex and comprised of many layers of caching and programming surrounding that caching etc.
Anything involving bypassing cache for DB updates is going to involve maintaining obscure code at multiple levels of the mediawiki stack. The site manages to be fast, and its survived for a while but the code behind it's existence is a mess.
Anything involving bypassing cache for DB updates is going to involve maintaining obscure code at multiple levels of the mediawiki stack. The site manages to be fast, and its survived for a while but the code behind it's existence is a mess.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Correct, and partly because they are totally dependent on a crude mash-up of assorted open-source products, many obsolete or abandoned. In fact, if not for Squid, I doubt Wikipedia would exist today. Their server loading functions are massively dependent on Squid and no WMF project wiki could survive the traffic loading without it. Squid is basically a leftover of the late 1990s dotcom boom, with very few active developers left. It's getting archaic.
Perhaps but we already have a lot of subforums. It's difficult to keep people's attention as it is. VERY few people, in or out of WP circles, gives a damn about their erratic software development environment. "It's a boring subject" and all that. Sorry.we should have a whole sub-forum just for developer incompetence
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
(24,000th post on Sucks. Yay!)
Edit: They appear to have switched to Varnish caching
Ironically, many of the proxies and VPNs used to vandalized Wikipedia also run on Squid.ericbarbour wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 2:49 amIn fact, if not for Squid, I doubt Wikipedia would exist today. Their server loading functions are massively dependent on Squid and no WMF project wiki could survive the traffic loading without it. Squid is basically a leftover of the late 1990s dotcom boom, with very few active developers left. It's getting archaic.
Edit: They appear to have switched to Varnish caching
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Wikipediocracy finally got around to it over a month after my original post.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Well.....far as I can tell, nothing is being done, because I keep seeing things like this on random articles.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
There hasn't even been a new comment on the phab task since May 29th. This probably won't be solved for at least a 6 months, might even become a "forever issue".ericbarbour wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:32 amWell.....far as I can tell, nothing is being done, because I keep seeing things like this on random articles.
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Re: Graphs don't work because WMF developers are idiots
Lol they created an entire roadmap/strategy to fix the graph issue: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extensio ... ns#Roadmap I bet it still won't work in ten years.
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