Political bias and squabbling

[ericbarbour]

After seeing this 2019 AP report about "Spookstock", I CONTINUE to suspect that Wikipedia content is being influenced by members of the U.S. intelligence community. Usually in an incompetent and erratic way, just like the CIA itself.

YOU CANNOT READ ABOUT SPOOKSTOCK ON WIKIPEDIA. Put that word into the search box, and you get "Schwagstock" instead. One of many, many Grateful Dead-related jam-band festivals. Looks like that article is outdated, as the official Schwagstock website disppeared years ago. No evidence that a Schwagstock has been held since 2019. There's a BAND called "The Schwag" that still plays routinely, their website and FB page are updated. No direct relation. But nothing about the fundraising festival put on by the intelligence "industry" to help its less fortunate members and dependents. Why in the HELL is it deliberately forwarded to "Schwagstock"?

Furthermore, the group that directly assists the children of CIA spies killed in the line of duty, the CIA Officers Memorial Foundation, is ALSO not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia, except in passing on a few biographies. You have to read about it on the AP website and elsewhere. GOOGLE IT you lazy pricks.

What about the al-Balawi suicide bombing of 2009, mentioned in the AP article? Wikipedia calls it the "Camp Chapman attack" and has a lengthy and suitably-outraged-in-tone article. Its history is dominated by a little-known robotic content grinder called Cs32en, who is deeply obsessed with the 9/11 attacks and other U.S. military and spy related content.

Which reminds me: Wikipedia continues to suppress any serious discussion of "9/11 Truthers" and their theories. Crackpot or not, any mention of this quickly attracts squabblers who fight to shut down the discussion and heel administrators into assisting them. Example: Richard Gage, a well-known 9/11 truther. His article was originally created by Cs32en, to talk about the obscure Civil War figure instead. Later another nut-case, Hut 8.5, showed up and tried to make it all go away.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_L._Gage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Gage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia ... chard_Gage

Today, Gage is mentioned with great contempt, but only in the "Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth" article. Since 9/11 truthers love to talk about Israel's Mossad as being responsible for 9/11, labeling them as antisemites is routine for the pro-Israel nut squad on Wikipedia. They can't heel Palestine-related content any longer, but they can damn well control this little mess. Note that I failed to mention MONGO, the usual mad combatant in 9/11 truthie content. He's been keeping a low profile since 2011.

I DARE you to find any mention on Wikipedia of "The Ten Biggest American Intelligence Failures", a 2012 article in Foreign Policy magazine that apparently pissed off a lot of Beltway insiders. They absolutely hate being reminded of their own stupidity/incompetence.

Read the history of the "History of the Central Intelligence Agency". It is totally dominated by that legendary freak Northamerica1000, formerly "A Nobody", one of the most crackpot fanatical WP "insiders" I've ever seen. Admittedly, if the CIA has some control over NA1000, they aren't getting their money's worth, as the history article does a decent job of summarizing their many intelligence failures over the past 75 years. Is this the usual CIA joe-jobbing, or does NA1000 openly hate them, or is he just a crazy person who obsesses over the subject? Like the CIA itself, everything is obscured and vague.

It's easy enough to find other questionable things about American "intelligence" on WP. Poke around in the history of Mnnlaxer, for example. Knows a lot about Mohamedou Ould Slahi, for one thing.....

[badmachine]

some might remember the tragic tale of a ten-year-old child being raped and impregnated by an illegal immigrant, Gershon Fuentes (google tends to suggest Gerson is the first name, but that spelling returns only one relevant result). the child was taken across the border from Ohio to Indiana to obtain an abortion.

Wikipedia has an article on this, but anytime anyone attempts to insert this information, it is oversighted.

this article was also sent to AfD, where it was decided to keep the article, at least til the stink dies down when they could redirect it.

at some point, there was a draft article that was deleted because it named the suspect, per WP:BLP and WP:SUSPECT.

tl;dr: the wikipedians are desperate to cover for Gershon Fuentes because his (alleged) rape of this child conflicts with their worldview that all the illegal immigrants are angels escaping global warming in Central and South America (and that abortions are a societal good).

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[Bbb23sucks]

some might remember the tragic tale of a ten-year-old child being raped and impregnated by an illegal immigrant, Gershon Fuentes (google tends to suggest Gerson is the first name, but that spelling returns only one relevant result). the child was taken across the border from Ohio to Indiana to obtain an abortion.

Wikipedia has an article on this, but anytime anyone attempts to insert this information, it is oversighted.

this article was also sent to AfD, where it was decided to keep the article, at least til the stink dies down when they could redirect it.

at some point, there was a draft article that was deleted because it named the suspect, per WP:BLP and WP:SUSPECT.

tl;dr: the wikipedians are desperate to cover for Gershon Fuentes because his (alleged) rape of this child conflicts with their worldview that all the illegal immigrants are angels escaping global warming in Central and South America (and that abortions are a societal good).

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Can you please clarify? I don't see what they did wrong. The article was deleted due to lack of sources, but was later recreated with sources.

Also, your claimed "bias" just sounds like paranoia.

[ericbarbour]

Man that is an ugly article history. Dozens of rev deletions, constant dramaqueening by BD2412, Valereee and ScottishFinnishRadish. All three are notorious long-term edit warriors and cranks. They, along with "Firefangledfeathers" and occasional passing patrollers, are going to deranged lengths to hide the (alleged!) rapist's real name. Despite being listed in "reliable sources" and in court documents.

There you are: Wikipedia insiders ignoring their own policies for blatantly-leftist (or insane?) political reasons. Excellent example.

some might remember the tragic tale of a ten-year-old child being raped and impregnated by an illegal immigrant, Gershon Fuentes (google tends to suggest Gerson is the first name, but that spelling returns only one relevant result). the child was taken across the border from Ohio to Indiana to obtain an abortion.
Wikipedia has an article on this, but anytime anyone attempts to insert this information, it is oversighted.

this article was also sent to AfD, where it was decided to keep the article, at least til the stink dies down when they could redirect it.

Can you please clarify? I don't see what they did wrong. The article was deleted due to lack of sources, but was later recreated with sources.
Also, your claimed "bias" just sounds like paranoia.

I see it -- and you should learn from this example. Wikipedia is set up to make bias look like a possible delusion.

[Bbb23sucks]

Man that is an ugly article history. Dozens of rev deletions, constant dramaqueening by BD2412, Valereee and ScottishFinnishRadish. All three are notorious long-term edit warriors and cranks. They, along with "Firefangledfeathers" and occasional passing patrollers, are going to deranged lengths to hide the (alleged!) rapist's real name. Despite being listed in "reliable sources" and in court documents.

There you are: Wikipedia insiders ignoring their own policies for blatantly-leftist (or insane?) political reasons. Excellent example.

some might remember the tragic tale of a ten-year-old child being raped and impregnated by an illegal immigrant, Gershon Fuentes (google tends to suggest Gerson is the first name, but that spelling returns only one relevant result). the child was taken across the border from Ohio to Indiana to obtain an abortion.
Wikipedia has an article on this, but anytime anyone attempts to insert this information, it is oversighted.

this article was also sent to AfD, where it was decided to keep the article, at least til the stink dies down when they could redirect it.

Can you please clarify? I don't see what they did wrong. The article was deleted due to lack of sources, but was later recreated with sources.
Also, your claimed "bias" just sounds like paranoia.

I see it -- and you should learn from this example. Wikipedia is set up to make bias look like a possible delusion.

Sorry - I didn't know if they were sourced or not (I obviously couldn't view the oversighted revisions)

[Bbb23sucks]

Man that is an ugly article history. Dozens of rev deletions, constant dramaqueening by BD2412, Valereee and ScottishFinnishRadish. All three are notorious long-term edit warriors and cranks. They, along with "Firefangledfeathers" and occasional passing patrollers, are going to deranged lengths to hide the (alleged!) rapist's real name. Despite being listed in "reliable sources" and in court documents.

There you are: Wikipedia insiders ignoring their own policies for blatantly-leftist (or insane?) political reasons. Excellent example.

some might remember the tragic tale of a ten-year-old child being raped and impregnated by an illegal immigrant, Gershon Fuentes (google tends to suggest Gerson is the first name, but that spelling returns only one relevant result). the child was taken across the border from Ohio to Indiana to obtain an abortion.
Wikipedia has an article on this, but anytime anyone attempts to insert this information, it is oversighted.

this article was also sent to AfD, where it was decided to keep the article, at least til the stink dies down when they could redirect it.

Can you please clarify? I don't see what they did wrong. The article was deleted due to lack of sources, but was later recreated with sources.
Also, your claimed "bias" just sounds like paranoia.

I see it -- and you should learn from this example. Wikipedia is set up to make bias look like a possible delusion.

I hate how "left" has come to mean socially """progressive""". The original leftists and unionists were actually anti-immigration.

[badmachine]

i forgot to include this AfD for "Gershon Fuentes sexual assault case". they went through all that effort to oversight his name from the article yet here is this with his IRL name:
link ··· (article archive) ··· (history archive)

[ericbarbour]

i forgot to include this AfD for "Gershon Fuentes sexual assault case". they went through all that effort to oversight his name from the article yet here is this with his IRL name:
link ··· (article archive) ··· (history archive)

They are counting on Joe Average to not know how to type "wp:afd gershon fuentes" into the searchbox. Oversight is useless when there is ample coverage elsewhere online. But don't tell that to an oversighter!

[StephenBryant7]

This is one of the main problems with the far-left website Wikipedia--the pople who do nothing wrong get punished for life and the people who are extremely malicious get off easy. It's sickening.

[Bbb23sucks]

This is one of the main problems with the far-left website Wikipedia--the pople who do nothing wrong get punished for life and the people who are extremely malicious get off easy. It's sickening.

How exactly is Wikipedia "far-left"? Search this forum and you can see that we have found many instances of anti-communist and pro-Israel POV pushing on Wikipedia.