Julia Reda

[Graaf Statler]

But Frau Reda!

https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1107697243015053312

In my opinion is this a tremendous progress!

Because situation is now, you are as a user always responsible, but in the new situation if a platform has a licence a private person, or someone who made a little money is not responsible anymore! A claim has to be payed by the platform in the future!

Lisen frau rede, I think you don't have even a clou about this legal matters. What is a great step forward you don't even recognise as a stap forward.
And, it seems to me easy to make clear if a platform has a license or not. I don't see the problem you see.
This is a protection what now not existed before. The kid what I gave as a example who had to pay 4000 euro is the new situation protected, what he not was before!
If he post on a side with a license is the platform responsible in the future.

Madam Reda. Again, this new regulation, article13 is not about copyright, it is not about filters.

It is about to shift the responsibility from the advanced citizens of the EU to the platforms. And if someone start a firm or become a YouTube star and make money out of it he or she keeps responsible, just like the situation is now. The old situation just remains as it is for professionals. For them change nothing.

You simple don't know where you are talking about Frau Reda. You are just saying someting.

(Arthur, correct me if I am wrong, but I am afraid I am not)

[Graaf Statler]

Verstehen sie Deutsch Frau Reda? Und kunnen sie lesen? Ja?
Was ist hier geschrieben, Frau Reda? Oder haben sie ein problem mit die Brille? Ich sollte ihnen helfen, die Hollander sind immer sehr höflich.

Die reform des Urheberrecht fordert KEINE Uploadfilter!




Das ist doch alles ja scheisse, Frau Reda.


https://www.facebook.com/AxelVossMdEP/p ... 6111402227

(Not bad without any help of translate software I think.)

[Graaf Statler]

https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1108340120002981889

We must do more to convince MEPs all over Europe to reject #Uploadfilters! Julia Reda.

Gute morgen, Frau Reda.

Die reform des Urheberrecht (Article13) fordert KEINE (NO) Uploadfilter!

THERE IS NO OBLIGATION FOR A UPLOAD FILTER IN ARTICLE!#ARTICLE 13!!!!

KEINE, KEINE, KEINE, Frau Reda. NO FILTER.

(Didn't know Romaine had a German sister).

[Graaf Statler]

O, you got the message I understand you had to correct all your filter and Free Source movement bullshit.

Eine bemerkung Fräulein Read, there were except the first time not thousands of people in the streets, but about thousand and I suppose all the time the same Pirate Party fans. And of course this has been the motherfucking of astroturfing and in that way it is not very fair to claim 5 million of the 500 million Europeans have signed. But for the rest it is OK, and the next time you listen very carefully if uncle Alex and uncle Guy explane you something, understand? Because you have still a lot to learn a lot from old man, Fräulein Reda, and the rest too.
Do you got the message now? And WMF too? Fine!

Sorry guys, it is in German. At 4.50 corrects Fräulei Reda all the Free source bullshit and astroturfing on a EU press conference, and she doesn't look very happy. And Helga Trüpel blames at 14.00 Wikipedia politics with there black-out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... kSslge0CKI

[Graaf Statler]

After watching the video careful over I notice a tremendous leak of legal knowledge of Reda. It is really shocking after so many years in that commission she still doesn't understand what regulated is on a national level, and what the authorization of the EU is. Voss not, Voss is a lawyer, She want all kind of things what only on a national level posible is. Not a wonder cunning Voss gets here exacte where he wants, she has not even a change against a good lawyer like Voss is.

She is still making the mistake the free source movement made from the first moment on. She wants changes in copyright, but license and copyright is a national matter. If you want what she wants you first have to change all copyright laws in all the European country's, the EU simple hasn't that authorisation. Only the national parliaments have.

[Kumioko]

There are however, only so many people aware of Wiki criticism sites anyway, so Jimbotalk is still the go to place.

As if he would do something about Julia Reda. Or anything else. Not to worry, Jimbotalk is now on the watchlists of 3,677 cult members. Post anything and one of their nutless wonders will be happy to revert you within 30 seconds. Ask Kumioko!
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =886136781
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =886136821

Yeah that caused a bunch of accounts to be blocked, I believe Jimbo's talk page was changed to Semi protected so only established editors could comment and a large network was blocked for a while. All for a few seconds of my time. A good trade.

[Graaf Statler]

Yeah that caused a bunch of accounts to be blocked, I believe Jimbo's talk page was changed to Semi protected so only established editors could comment and a large network was blocked for a while. All for a few seconds of my time. A good trade.

This is not about blocking a few accounts anymore, Kum.

Because they have no scholarly interests. If they had any, they would focus on the content as the interface mostly works just fine. They are computer programmers who fancy themselves honorary experts about anything written in bytes. They fanatically believe that only their work should be paid, even when it as here is uniquely ineffectual and useless. These are parasites who "make" (i.e. take) a living through expropriating, bundling and selling other people's work. They should be brought to justice.

Source

Only een beetje dom to do this kind of thinks on a wiki what stores every edit in the user history.

WMF has broken and is breaking on a large scale European regulation and national laws in European country's. Helga Trüpel has blamed wikipedia in a Pressekonferenz mit Europaabgeordneten (21.03.2019) of being political.
Europe is a complete different continent than America. You must always listen very careful what someone is saying, always read between the lines. Voss is a typical example of a European lawyer (or judge, that is often the same. Many laywers are judges too but never in the same case. Or professor and judge.)
Many times they say themself nothing and only listen and smile friendly. Alex Voss his smile on his face is a 100% professional lawyers and judge smile. They are calm, sometimes a bit boring people. They let themself advice by experts, they only draw conclusions. And at the end everything what they have noticed comes back.

And if I interpreted the signals, also in German and Dutch press, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there will be a official investigation what has happend here. Because we are talking about the European and national jurisdiction and the strange behaving of WMF and it employers and also of the chapters, special the Dutch chapter what has played a very, very strange roll.
It is extreem naive to think because the authorities don't speak or don't intervent they don't notice. They observe, they are cats, they see the seem happens what we see.
They are all the kind of people like Axel Voss and Helga Trüpel, type your uncle or aunt. In general they have a great sense of humor, are bright and very well informed. You simple don't fool them.

MEP's, judges members of the parlement, the senate are not chosen, they are selected. The serieus party's select there MP and MEP's very careful. Most times they are academics and specialists in some field. For judges, professors and other high placed public functions are different procedures. It is a total different system from America.

[Graaf Statler]

https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110214454032121859

Unglaublich! @guyverhofstadt hat eine Debatte in der Fraktionssitzung der Liberalen @ALDEgroup unterbunden, die offizielle Abstimmempfehlubg der ALDE wird FÜR die #Urheberechtsreform inkl #Artikel13 sein!

Pffffffffffffff..... Fräulein Reda, you are a queen without a land. There have been serious reproaches, keep that in mind. Guy Verhofstad, Alex Voss and Frans Timmerman are what we call zwaargewichten, heavyweights. These are very importent and high respect politicians from different political directions.
You party has not even represents in the national parliaments, so my question is: Who do you think you are?

[Graaf Statler]

Idiots.

https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110289710302326795

They gave them the wood and the fire lighters, they build the fire pill themself and at the end they even lighten that fire pile with there own lighter. Without the help of the wikipedia pirates the lobbyists of the pro site had never, never managed to get article 11 and 13 trough the European parlement because it is indeed very controversial and misty. Never!

Zwei schwedische Sozialdemokratinnen, die bislang gegen #Artikel13 waren, wollen jetzt doch dafür stimmen

Two Swedish Social Democrats, who have been against Article 13, now want to vote for it.

We are no bots. Pirate Romaine+ friends and no bots and trolling is about the same as the news the pope will marry tomorrow with a 20 year old playmate. We are no bots, and without any campane 5 million Europeans has signed a petition nobody has ever heard about. There was nothing in the news about this "hot article13 and 11" this summer and still isn't except scandals, nobody was talking about it, it was no hot item on the social media, but the trolly trolly wikipedians made a "hot European summer" out of it.

And the lobbyist from the pro side only where thinking thank you very much. Look, look, all that phone calls are astroturfing, because no one in europe normal should even think about the posebillety to phone "his MEP", who for the hell that might be.
And just a few days for the voting scandal after scandal appears in the newspapers. All coincidence.
Jesus, for sure the big editors and the music industry will toast on them tomorrow evening, the champagne corks for sure fly around tomorrow evening, you can spell on that.

Do you know the old joke about Pavarotti, the famous opera singer on the Dam in Amsterdam what I heard long ago about coincidence? No? Well, Pavarotti is walking om De Dam, the central square of Amsterdam.
A roof tile falls somewhere of the roof. It does not hit Pavarotti. Is this a coincidence? Yes it is.

[Graaf Statler]

O, o.
Poor EdodeRoo, his beloved Dutch SP (Socialistic Party) will vote in favourite. A personal drama.

https://twitter.com/DdJong/status/1109913479731953665

Als SP blijven we tegen internetcensuur, maar na uitvoerig met alle betrokkenen te hebben gesproken, gaan we komende week in Straatsburg toch voor de auteursrechtenrichtlijn stemmen.