Re: Is wikipedia really the cesspool everyone ways it to be here?
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:53 pm
Not only are they a cesspool, they openly admit it.
Even though it is allegedly a "Pillar" of Wikipedia that everyone should treat each other with respect, the hard core volunteers of English Wikipedia got together a while back, and formed a "consensus" that their Administrators shouldn't do anything even if a user is repeatedly telling other users to "fuck off".
They cannot block people for it, they are not supposed to even warn them for it (in case the person who is doing it, gets offended!).
Naturally, this rule doesn't apply to newcomers, who can still easily be blocked for repeated and deliberate rudeness under the pillar. It is designed to protect the people to whom aggressive and calculated rudeness comes naturally. The established editors, the people who consider themselves more important than newcomers, just because they've wasted a good portion of their lives, being Wikipedia editors.
If that doesn't tell you what the core values of the Wikipedia community are, I don't know what would.
This probably doesn't sit well with the legal owners of Wikipedia, but of course, by law and custom, they're not allowed to hold the volunteer editors to a defined minimal standard of conduct. That is a position the volunteers have fought very hard to achieve.
The right to be assholes, and self regulate their accepted level of inter-editor assholery, is perhaps the hardest they have ever fought for anything (whereas, when it came time to stand up as a community and show support for Black Lives Matter, they dodged the issue by falsely claiming that is a political issue, rather than a matter of fundamental decency).
In a word, they're scum.
Nobody in their right mind wants to be part of that "community" if they can help it. But Wikipedia is addictive, so sadly, many people aren't made aware of what they have joined, until they are psychologically unable to leave.
That is perhaps why so many of them are so rude all the time, lashing out at the drop of a hat. They're angry at the realisation they're nothing but filthy little loser addicts.
Even though it is allegedly a "Pillar" of Wikipedia that everyone should treat each other with respect, the hard core volunteers of English Wikipedia got together a while back, and formed a "consensus" that their Administrators shouldn't do anything even if a user is repeatedly telling other users to "fuck off".
They cannot block people for it, they are not supposed to even warn them for it (in case the person who is doing it, gets offended!).
Naturally, this rule doesn't apply to newcomers, who can still easily be blocked for repeated and deliberate rudeness under the pillar. It is designed to protect the people to whom aggressive and calculated rudeness comes naturally. The established editors, the people who consider themselves more important than newcomers, just because they've wasted a good portion of their lives, being Wikipedia editors.
If that doesn't tell you what the core values of the Wikipedia community are, I don't know what would.
This probably doesn't sit well with the legal owners of Wikipedia, but of course, by law and custom, they're not allowed to hold the volunteer editors to a defined minimal standard of conduct. That is a position the volunteers have fought very hard to achieve.
The right to be assholes, and self regulate their accepted level of inter-editor assholery, is perhaps the hardest they have ever fought for anything (whereas, when it came time to stand up as a community and show support for Black Lives Matter, they dodged the issue by falsely claiming that is a political issue, rather than a matter of fundamental decency).
In a word, they're scum.
Nobody in their right mind wants to be part of that "community" if they can help it. But Wikipedia is addictive, so sadly, many people aren't made aware of what they have joined, until they are psychologically unable to leave.
That is perhaps why so many of them are so rude all the time, lashing out at the drop of a hat. They're angry at the realisation they're nothing but filthy little loser addicts.