The John C. Eastman squabble, previously unnoticed

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The John C. Eastman squabble, previously unnoticed

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:04 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html
Eastman was able to move quickly because he already had a Wikipedia account and was familiar with its ways; over the years he had edited his own article, a violation of the rules that was noticed but incompletely acted upon. This time, however, Eastman’s editing drew immediate attention. In barely two hours, all of his changes were made to disappear — “reverted,” in the parlance of Wikipedia — and he was asked to make his case on the Talk page assigned to the article, where editors can debate proposals for improving an entry.
The talkpage is a lovely display of Wiki-cringe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_C._Eastman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jeastman :D

Also unnoticed, but squabbling on the talkpage with Drmies in August of last year: a sockpuppet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Anigbrowl

plus a long list of IPV6 addresses messing around. Fighting with the usual WP angry leftists (Activist, InedibleHulk etc.)

Fave part of the Washington Post article:
The closest approximation to a Wikipedia power player would be Jimmy Wales, the chairman emeritus of the foundation that supports Wikipedias in more than 250 languages and the face of the project for its 20 years of existence. But Wales is not actually in control of anything. When he gets personally involved in helping a petitioner, a crowd of editors track his movements to ensure that he not hold special influence. This tradition began way back in Wikipedia’s history, when Wales insisted that the birth date on his own article, and his birth certificate, was wrong. The editors did not take his word for it. More recently, in 2019, Wales highlighted the complaints of a YouTube conspiracy theorist, Mark Dice, who believed his achievements were being underplayed by Wikipedia. The editors explained that they didn’t care about Wales’s opinion, and the Dice article today is even less flattering than it was before.
Lulzy!

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Re: The John C. Eastman squabble, previously unnoticed

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:19 pm

And in case you are wondering: Noam Cohen does have his own article, created in 2017 by a "Slowking4 sock", which makes me wonder: is Cohen also Slowking4, one of the most despised editing addicts in their history? He has repeatedly admitted to editing WP. Although I have yet to find any of the accounts he used. The Bird might wish to poke around in this area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _Slowking4

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Re: The John C. Eastman squabble, previously unnoticed

Post by Strelnikov » Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:49 am

ericbarbour wrote:
Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:04 pm

Fave part of the Washington Post article:
The closest approximation to a Wikipedia power player would be Jimmy Wales, the chairman emeritus of the foundation that supports Wikipedias in more than 250 languages and the face of the project for its 20 years of existence. But Wales is not actually in control of anything. When he gets personally involved in helping a petitioner, a crowd of editors track his movements to ensure that he not hold special influence. This tradition began way back in Wikipedia’s history, when Wales insisted that the birth date on his own article, and his birth certificate, was wrong. The editors did not take his word for it. More recently, in 2019, Wales highlighted the complaints of a YouTube conspiracy theorist, Mark Dice, who believed his achievements were being underplayed by Wikipedia. The editors explained that they didn’t care about Wales’s opinion, and the Dice article today is even less flattering than it was before.
Jimbo Wales, "chairman emeritus"? "Not in control of anything"?

Pferdscheisse!!

That's the same argument Mummar Al-Gazzafi* made about the Libya he ran, that it was all up the Jamahiriya, the system of direct democracy he set up in the 1970s....the reality was that he was pulling the strings. Wales still has power, everybody here knows this. The real creator of Wikipedia from the BOMIS years and Larry Sanger need to show up and challenge Jimmy a little; he gets too much of a free ride.


* Palestinian transliteration of his name, there is no correct way of spelling any name in Arabic, just favored styles.
Still "Globally Banned" on Wikipedia for the high crime of journalism.

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Re: The John C. Eastman squabble, previously unnoticed

Post by ericbarbour » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:59 pm

Update:

Apparently on Tuesday there will be a public hearing on California's move to revoke Eastman's law license. He's already lost his job at Chapman and is "unemployable" in academia by now, according to a couple of editorials I've seen. And he's blocked on Wikipedia, and they are watching for his sock accounts with their usual irrational zeal. The guy has infuriated a lot of powerful people, but keeps trying to wriggle away by "Wiki lawyering". I think he spent too much time studying WP's demented "governance" and thinks he can use it in real life.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023 ... -democracy
https://www.presstelegram.com/2023/06/1 ... eme-court/

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