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César de Paço

Post by Ognistysztorm » Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:58 pm

https://diff.wikimedia.org/2023/07/27/h ... ion-slapp/

Thanks to César de Paço, there is a realistic shot on taking down Wikipedia for good.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by ericbarbour » Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:22 am

Good find, although you should also drop in how WP itself sees this....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_DePa%C3%A7o
In January 2021, his lawyer edited his Wikipedia page and threatened legal action if Wikipedia did not remove information he considered fraudulent; this included the sensationalistic portrayal of his one-time donation to CHEGA!.[10][11]
Otherwise most it of looks like paid editing. Very little on the talkpage other than spluttering. The largest author:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cristiano_Tom%C3%A1s
Also a major editor and the talkpage's prinicipal "camper":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gustav_Benedictis

Is the WMF going to use this for fundraising and stirring up their pathetic "troops"? OF COURSE.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by wexter » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:47 pm

Ceasr de Paco is all part of the "piranha attack" now underway against Wikipedia
As Wikipedia loses relevance to AI expect more piranha's to attack;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKwAJG1O8fE

Moar just dropped;
Wikipedia Co-Founder Condemns It: “Most Biased Encyclopedia” in History
Nothing is more biased than Wikipedia

Wikipedia - "Barely competent and paranoid. There’s a hell of a combination."

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Re: César de Paço

Post by rubricatedseedpod » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm

wexter wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:47 pm
Ceasr de Paco is all part of the "piranha attack" now underway against Wikipedia
As Wikipedia loses relevance to AI expect more piranha's to attack;
Lol, it sounds like you're looking forward to this. Everything bad about Wikipedia will be even worse with AI. It inherits reader habits as well as content and style, but adds on greater ease of use (a bad thing) and strips away any good practices Wikipedians pushed themselves to keep, notably proper attribution of sources. And make no mistake, popular informational LLM services will end up being much better propaganda tools than Wikipedia ever was.
Editing Wikipedia is not a substitute for being a person.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by wexter » Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:58 am

rubricatedseedpod wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm
wexter wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:47 pm
Ceasr de Paco is all part of the "piranha attack" now underway against Wikipedia
As Wikipedia loses relevance to AI expect more piranha's to attack;
Lol, it sounds like you're looking forward to this. Everything bad about Wikipedia will be even worse with AI. It inherits reader habits as well as content and style, but adds on greater ease of use (a bad thing) and strips away any good practices Wikipedians pushed themselves to keep, notably proper attribution of sources. And make no mistake, popular informational LLM services will end up being much better propaganda tools than Wikipedia ever was.

The main function of Wikipedia is to provide revenue to Google.

"Best practices" is a lie that some Wikipedian's believe in - creating an "encyclopedia" based on nonsensical "best practices" is another lie.

AI as an information source for consumers will be equally or more deleterious - yep. AI (which will be a broad set of technologies) will make smarter people more effective and the masses even dumber and more feckless - yep.
Wikipedia - "Barely competent and paranoid. There’s a hell of a combination."

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Re: César de Paço

Post by boredbird » Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:01 am

So De Paco is demanding WMF turn over the identities of the Wikilusers who've been attacking him…

We can help!

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Re: César de Paço

Post by ericbarbour » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:19 am

boredbird wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:01 am
So De Paco is demanding WMF turn over the identities of the Wikilusers who've been attacking him…
We can help!
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... &limit=500

Apart from Andy Mabbett, no help from me.
"One More Scientist" is unquestionably a sockpuppet of someone.
Still no idea of "Fences and Windows" real identity. British nut-case. Favorite article: wound licking. Knock yourself out.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by boredbird » Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:44 am

ericbarbour wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 7:19 am
Apart from Andy Mabbett, no help from me.
"One More Scientist" is unquestionably a sockpuppet of someone.
Still no idea of "Fences and Windows" real identity. British nut-case. Favorite article: wound licking. Knock yourself out.
They're mostly from Portuguese Wikipedia because no one else cares about this stuff. Who is Andre Ventura? Some Portuguese Trump apparently – ask One More Scientist I guess since that's where he started. So we get the same kind of crap as with "Small Hands" Gamaliel, just shameless partisanship except this time with a mostly random third party proxy target. What is Chega? The guy donated $10k to this Chega and now he is their chief financier or something. It''s nuts.

I got a couple of these lusers they're not that hard to find. Might post some names in a bit.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by boredbird » Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:51 pm

Hey hey got a flaming hot tip.
ericbarbour wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:22 am
Otherwise most it of looks like paid editing.
Who is this "Kacamata" character? Blanks a bunch of stuff and when "Darwin" reverts him he places an "advertisement" template for revenge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1135667325
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1142382520
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1142927705

This went too far even for Andy "Pigsonthewing" Mabbet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1142382520

Kacamata was originally User:SirEdimon.

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?ti ... =966586289
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=20922162
https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... d=51146025
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1041046530

He got his username changed to Kacamata "for privacy reasons".

https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=21759349
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php? ... d=21946238

Here he is on youtube calling himself Emerique.

https://www.youtube.com/user/SirEdimon

Ding ding we have a winner.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/140775469@N06
https://br.linkedin.com/in/edimon-emerique-3123a022
Curitiba, Paraná, Brasil
freelance translator and editor
Pontifícia Universidade Católica de Minas Gerais
BS Social Communitations
2006-2010

Here he is on Facebook, Edimon Emerique da Silva.

https://facebook.com/edimon.emeriquedasilva.5

Full name Edimon Francisco Emerique da Silva.

https://cdn.cebraspe.org.br/concursos/i ... EXO_IV.PDF
https://www.scribd.com/document/5257601 ... do-final-1

What do you know, a paid editor on freelancer, Edimon Francisco E. and Edimon Emerique.

https://www.br.freelancer.com/job-searc ... mediawiki/

You can see him talking to and being reviewed by his many Wikipedia clients. I guess one of them doesn't like De Paco.

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Re: César de Paço

Post by badmachine » Thu Aug 03, 2023 12:36 am

lol flickr, youtube, and facebook all blanked or unavailable :shrug:

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