After the Wikipedia page was locked, User:Johnj1995 today tried to add the bit about one of the alleged meat preservative sellers for Sanctioned Suicide being arrested and was speedily reverted by Freedom4U.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... 1170601303
This is now the third time they've tried to censor the arrest from the page.
F4U was trying to distance him from the site and said he was only arrested not convicted. RS already established he was connected enough to the site that SS members had come up with recognized initializations for his real first and last name, like "KL". From a news article on the subject:
Similarly, many posts on the forum appear to allude to Law’s business, referring to a “KL” and encouraging other users to contact that individual for a consultation or purchase.
https://www.cp24.com/news/this-is-horri ... -1.6384699
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/we-lost-a-ch ... -1.6385312
There is an enormous amount of RS about the arrest in the news, to the point that someone at Wikipediocracy claimed an entire Wikipedia page could be constructed from it.
There's 2 forums that promote this chemical, and so some Wikipedians are using that confusion as a dishonest club to keep the arrest out of the Wikipedia. The first forum is Nitschke's forum, which recommends the drug only to super old people on a vetted, closed forum. This is hardly publicized. The second is SS, which partially rehosts Nitschke's material to young people who aren't immobile and hence probably wouldn't need drugs for suicide even from their point of view, considering drugs are the least effect suicide route. Nitschke has repeatedly stated in public that he's tried to get SS to stop rehosting his material about drugs. Nitschke probably recognizes SS is a huge liability to his efforts to market the chemical.
Nitschke himself seems a bit unhinged despite some reasonable opinions that people should be able to choose when to end their life. One of the more unhinged things though is he markets the meat preservative to old people on the justification that it is used to control feral pigs.
https://archive.is/wmToO
Recently, a seller of a chemical similar to sodium nitrite was arrested in Netherlands and got 3 years in jail for selling the drug for suicide
https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzania/n ... ds-4307444
Philip himself implies the powder was a similar inorganic salt (which causes similar severe side effects in overdose including severe protracted headaches, protracted extreme low blood pressure, uncontrollable vomiting etc). He also posted that both sellers profited in excess of 90k USD from their alleged sale of inorganic salts for suicide.
https://archive.is/wip/wPlwN
Another unhinged thing Philip has done was try to collect recordings of his members killing themselves via the meat preservative. That's a pretty crazed way to test the safety of a novel suicide method on humans... through recommending people take it via an ebook and then giving them a thumbs up online for going all the way to completion. In his ebook he published a year prior to requesting videos, he stated he already knew that SN overdose symptoms were protracted before death by, in his words, almost an hour in humans. His only references to the science on it's peacefulness in the ebook was "controlling feral pigs" and that it "serves a vital public health function in that it blocks the growth of bacteria".
https://archive.is/24OHz
Philip has called the meat preservative method a "peacefull pill", and of all pro-euthanasia people to cite, he cited the Scientology-associated, right-libertarian Thomas Szasz in his defence of the method.
https://archive.is/wip/UAMzP
Boudewijn Chabot, another pro-euthanasia activist has instead called the meat preservative method a "toxic cocktail" and warns against it in his book about dignified methods to die by suicide.
https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/uitweg/9200000035871257/
"Even if you use anti vomit tablets, a pain killer and benzo's with the SN the death struggle can last up to 40 hours. With convulsions and epeleptic seizures."
https://archive.is/tWuCM
If people read the failed overdose stories on SS (if they are even still up) there really is nothing controversial about Boudewijn Chabot's statement, it is clearly a cruel method to recommend to people, not to mention have as the main suicide method on the site. It wasn't even the most common method on the subreddit, only Small's forum. In fact, it was hardly ever mentioned on the subreddit. Additionally, all the reliable sources have rejected the 'controversial' framing, and are universally negative about this whole matter, even to the point of huge news organizations backtracking prior support for Philip. Seemingly all RS commentating on the matter has taken Chabot's stance instead.