Wikipedia Sucks!

ericbarbour wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:57 am

Perhaps I should post stupid memes here.

what do you want me to deliver then?

ericbarbour wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:17 am

what do you want me to deliver then?

I'm the LAST person who would argue with you about the miserable, petty truth of humanity. Exploiting resources until exhausted, organized religion, political madness, corruption, greed, stupidity. We nailed every item on the list already.

Also I think that "Rare Earth" book is silly. Just like the old "Drake equation" and all sorts of science fiction--we don't know anything about other life-bearing worlds because they're too far away. The "experts" make all kinds of assumptions, and proceed to "invent" things they can't prove or see. Until our rotten little species finally figures out how to send probes to other solar systems, the best we can get is better space telescopes. And that ain't much. Any earthlike planets are very tiny things scattered in a vast galaxy.

Star Trek is a hokey fairy tale, but it won't prevent me from posting this.
universe.jpg

When we're gone, no other species on earth is going to miss us, what is the point of our very existence then?

Why are we so hypocritical [...]

SkepticalHistorian wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:57 pm

I’ve been a doomer since 1973, read “The Population Bomb” (my mom bought the book) and “Limits to Growth.” Extinction will come from overpopulation, peak oil and pollution (climate change).

Don’t believe there are other planets with intelligent life. Earth is unique. Read this book too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Eart ... e_Universe

• UN population projections (10.4 billion, 2022)
  • "WORLD POPULATION TO 2300" (14 billion+, 2004)
  • "World population stabilization unlikely this century" (12.3 billion, 2014)
  • "World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100" (11.2 billion, 2017)
  • "Demographic and human capital scenarios for
    the 21st century" (9.8 billion, 2018)
• Particulate Matter (PM2.5) Trends
  • Estimated Long-Term (1981–2016) Concentrations of Ambient Fine Particulate Matter across North America from Chemical Transport Modeling, Satellite Remote Sensing, and Ground-Based Measurements
  • Global urban temporal trends in fine particulate matter (PM2.5) and attributable health burdens: estimates from global datasets
    • Fig. 1
• PFAS in the U.S. Population
  • Atmospheric concentrations and trends of poly- and perfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) and volatile methyl siloxanes (VMS) over 7 years of sampling in the Global Atmospheric Passive Sampling (GAPS) network
• Lead Trends
• Observed decrease in atmospheric mercury explained by global decline in anthropogenic emissions

Bbb23sucks wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:58 am

SkepticalHistorian wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:57 pm

I’ve been a doomer since 1973, read “The Population Bomb” (my mom bought the book) and “Limits to Growth.” Extinction will come from overpopulation, peak oil and pollution (climate change).

Don’t believe there are other planets with intelligent life. Earth is unique. Read this book too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_Eart ... e_Universe

Overpopulation is a MYTH. We were supposed to peak at 14 billion (or higher!) people, then they revised down to 12 billion, then 11, now 10.4. They may soon revise it down even lower. Atmospheric pollution is currently the lowest in decades in most developed countries and global pollution is staying about even. We won't reach peak oil. Period. Other pollution (such as PFAS, lead, and Mercury) also continues to go down rapidly.

Sources:

• UN population projections (10.4 billion, 2022)
  • "WORLD POPULATION TO 2300" (14 billion+, 2004)
  • "World population stabilization unlikely this century" (12.3 billion, 2014)
  • "World population projected to reach 9.8 billion in 2050, and 11.2 billion in 2100" (11.2 billion, 2017)
  • "Demographic and human capital scenarios for
    the 21st century" (9.8 billion, 2018)
• Particulate Matter (PM2.5) Trends
  • Estimated Long-Term (1981–2016) Concentrations of Ambient Fine Particulate Matter across North America from Chemical Transport Modeling, Satellite Remote Sensing, and Ground-Based Measurements
  • Global urban temporal trends in fine particulate matter (PM2.5) and attributable health burdens: estimates from global datasets
    • Fig. 1
• PFAS in the U.S. Population
  • Atmospheric concentrations and trends of poly- and perfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) and volatile methyl siloxanes (VMS) over 7 years of sampling in the Global Atmospheric Passive Sampling (GAPS) network
• Lead Trends
• Observed decrease in atmospheric mercury explained by global decline in anthropogenic emissions