Jesus wept.I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to visit me here in my holding cell, and to show my good faith I've modified my post per your suggestion. But let me explain a little. I'm a technical person myself, and many were the years during which my technical prowess put me in a position where the quality of people's lives was very much in my hands. And one thing I always despised was a high-handed attitude, on the part of some of my technical colleagues, toward people not as in-the-know as they were. And that's the attitude I detected in that discussion when those two presumed to inform me (a computer scientist and systems engineer for 45 years) and David Eppstein (a professor of computer science) that the flooding of our watchlists was somehow our fault, because we'd overridden the option to hid bots edits -- like we didn't know what we were doing or something. That fact is, they don't know what they were doing, because if they did they'd have realized they need to run that bot task in some different way to avoid much annoyance to many people. So I blew my stack a bit. To be honest I thought better of it just after hitting <Publish changes>, but just then the dog vomited on the rug so my priorities suddenly shifted. EEng 00:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
In other words, he sees it in others, he just doesn't see it in himself.
By the sounds of it, even his dog is sick of living with this bullshit.
How ironic that If you actually go and look at the specific debate with the "script kiddies".....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk ... ts,_please
...... it becomes pretty clear that their crime of not appreciating EEng might intentionally have bot edits made visible by default, compared quite poorly with what he had done to them. Going to them with a complaint about their bot's speed, without having first established any of the pertinent facts, such as what the bot is for, how important/urgent it is, and thus which of the many speed related parts of the bot policy might be of use to EEng in his desire for a more socially acceptable speed.
No, he just made a vague and ill-informed request that was borderline ridiculous in context, a bot task that while not urgent, will involve four million edits. By his logic, the script kiddies then had every right to unload on his disrespectful ass. But they were actually quite sweet. If a little autistic. Kids today.
This is the problem with being a high handed asshat. You often forget the golden rule. Always make sure you know what you are talking about. That way you can at least shit on the heads of those lower down the food chain with confidence you at least know your facts. EEng not only didn't know he didn't even care. Literal arrogance.
The defenders are finally emerging, sensing the only option available is to accept 72 hours to avoid indefinite. Their arguments are the usual nonsense.
Holy crap, now my dog just vomited.Randy_Kryn wrote:....EEng speaks and writes in honest language, a rare treat on Wikipedia, and asking for full conformity to robothood seems to be more an urge to tame than to let wild things run free. Each person has their own personality (it's literally in the word), and it's from that personality that a volunteer spirit emerges that blends well with the concept and creation of Wikipedia.....
What a bunch of hippy horseshit.
Although I do think EEng was being totally honest when he used his edit count and talk page edits as a measuring stick. You spend that many hours alone in a room with only a dog and a PC for company, you're gonna look for self worth anywhere you can get it.
Hey, I wonder if his dog was sick because it's being mistreated? You can see how Wikipedia addiction and generally thinking you're hot shit, would interfere with the necessary walks and visits to the pet food store.